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Poster: Brew Guru Date: Dec 6, 2005 1:46am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Good News and an Apology: GD on the Internet Archive

I hope that the archive and the Grateful Dead continue to discuss and refine this change in policy. I think the compromise announced here doesn't go far enough.

There really is no difference between downloading soundboard recordings from this site and trading soundboards with Heads. Except for one -- aging Heads like me who no longer have trader connections are shut out completely from board recordings as we move to this 21st Century technology.

What really hurts is I just discovered the archive and purchased software to help me download efficiently -- just in time for this policy to take effect.

I own about two dozen of the Dick's Picks and also buy them as gifts for friends. I also own most of the Vault releases and the other concert releases the Dead does semiannually. I've also done one of the concerts from the new Dead download series. I would continue to buy those that interest me as they are put on the market, even with soundboards available on this archive.

I want to financially support a band that gave me 17 years of memories at concerts I attended. I'm sure most of your members feel the same way.

I hope the soundboards will be brought back for downloads. Let's face it, the Dead will only issue a limited number, but some of us may have an interest in the other shows (For example, I downloaded the 2-11-70 Fillmore East before the policy change; there's little chance it would be released since they've already done a Dick's Picks with other shows from this run).

I'm glad the audience recordings are back and plan to check them out. But please revisit the soundboard policy with the band.

Perhaps the archive could include all the boards except ones the band plans to release in the next five years.

Thanks for a great archive and a wonderful opportunity to enjoy incredible live music,

Brew Guru

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Poster: East Coast Date: Dec 6, 2005 8:00pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Good News and an Apology: GD on the Internet Archive

The point is this, the archive always pulled shows when they were officially released from the Dead and that angered many people. Some deadheads are just as greedy with the music. I remember reading comments about shows where there was mega complaining and shows being pulled...now all the soundboards are pulled. I am sure they are screaming even louder. The problem I have is that there are 100's of shows that will never make an official release...for whatever reason (sound quality, incomplete show, etc.) Those little tidbits of history are now gone unless we were fortunate to download these when we had the chance.

I am still perplexed as to how they determine what a SBD is and what an AUD is. 9-15-82 sure sounds like an AUD to me.

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Poster: Chris Barry Date: Dec 7, 2005 12:12am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Good News and an Apology: GD on the Internet Archive

I love Tom Waits too!

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Dec 7, 2005 12:17am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Good News and an Apology: GD on the Internet Archive

Hey, I'll add my name to that list as well. I know Tom Waits doesn't play live much, but has there been any effort to get his shows on the archive?

Nighthawks at the Diner is one of the greatest live performances of all time.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Dec 7, 2005 1:32am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Tom Waits

has there been any effort to get his shows on the archive?

Not as far as I know yet, though that would be cool. I don't personally know if he's trade-friendly though?

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Dec 7, 2005 6:28pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Tom Waits

My guess would be no, just b/c he doesn't play live alot and would probably want to issue official releases like "Nighthawks" and "Big Time" ( i think that was the title of the one he released in the 90's)when he does...there was also that stupid incident he had to deal with when Frito Lay asked him to sing on an ad for them; when he said "no" they got a "sound-alike" to do a Tom Waits-like growl for their chips and he sued (and won!)...so he might be a bit gun shy about issues regarding availability of his songs or even his voice.

Sure would be great to see him on the archive, though!

BTW, I'm very pleased that another of my favorite bands, The Cowboy Junkies--a pretty big commercial success relative to many of the "bar bands"--and no offense meant!--that appear here, seem perfectly at ease w/having their shows available.

I figured if a band that well-known is cool with it, maybe Tom would be, too?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Dec 7, 2005 8:37pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Cowboy Junkies

CJ were one of the earlier additions to the site and it's funny, wherever news of the LMA leaked into the press, I noticed it always seemed to be like, "They even have the Cowboy Junkies!" :)

Cowboy hats off to the band for their generosity!

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-12-08 04:37:14

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Poster: jhender501 Date: Dec 7, 2005 10:16pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Cowboy Junkies


I can never hear enough Cowboy Junkies.


Jim

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Dec 7, 2005 9:11pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Cowboy Junkies

Amen to that!

One gets the feeling Margo and her boys are just cool folks in that laid-back, Canadian way we could probably all benefit from here in the states.